Ahhh Pinski, I would have hoped you would have understood my tongue in cheek remark.

Personally I do not think that sex is an act that should be kept shut up in a closet and not spoken about. I love sex.

For it to be immoral and technically a sin...that applies to some. I wouldn't call sex evil though. Hence why I said I should be greatly feared.

As for marriage I believe the strife in the definition is whether it is only for hetero couples versus hetero and homosexual couples. Personally, if Joe wants to marry Joe do it. If I get to live in a happy marriage everyone else should too. It is also no ones business but Joe and Joe (or Jane and Jane for that matter).

Both types of couples still have sex, whether the ostriches with their heads in the sand want to realize it and think about it or not. Therefore, for the purist, both types of couples, regardless of make up are sinners because of premarital sex.

Sex was just an example, I could have easily used swearing, drinking, coveting, or whatever else people want to call a sin nowadays. To me, sins are just another way to keep all the little sheepie people in check. Baaaa!

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Your original question merely asked if any of us "believe" in evil, or not. I have answered that question. Since one can believe in things without, necessarily, having a logical and thoroughgoing definition of them, that answer is sufficient for all purposes to the question.

I'm not sure I understand the intent of this new question; and the nature of the answer I would give -- and perhaps the answer itself -- would depend on
what your intention really is.

I think, from the tone, that you mean to be argumentative; but I have no desire to argue this. I may be wrong as to your intention but, for now, I demur.

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This is buried deeply in each of us although most would either not know it or not admit to it

You have to go back to the beginning oif the dream of seperation and imagine in one instant being in a place of perfection and the next being in the dark (symbolically)
Its like a young child who runs away from his Dad and the Dad cals him but the child hears his Dad shouting - thinks hes in trouble and so runs faster and further
All the time the Dad is just calling him back - after all nothing has happned but the child gets more and more scared and by the time he looks back he is lost
Add to that that he no longer can sense "heaven" and he now thinks he may have either really pissed his dad off or worse his Dads come to some harm chasing him - guilt and all the fear associated with it follows

We refuse to acknowledge the power of thought - That thought "makes"

Gods message is that nothing has happened - we simply dream

In that knowing we are safe for what God knows IS

Thats as simply as I can put it

In reality nothing has happened as you will see in Revelation - but trying to describe that is beyond words

Forgivness (letting the past go) is the path out - Simple as that

Sorry, but it wasn't said sarcastically or negatively but only simply as a matter of fact. Nor was it a complaint. I was going to respond directly to you, but since Wendy already had, I thought I'd just tack it on.

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or else there wouldn't be evil people in the world.

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This is what I posted to the question as to whether there was evil:


And my response was meant to be taken as a joke-- maybe a bad one, but a joke nevertheless.

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Name a few? Well, my mom for one! Her name is Linda. The lady who singlehandedly made my life hell on earth for the first maybe 5 years of my life till I was lucky enough to be taken away from her, and then she wasn't done, oh no, she had to have me back so she could do some more of her great work on me, and to my younger brothers and sisters, whom I had fell in love with and tried to protect as my own children. My mom screwed up every childs life she had, all seven of them. Now shes working on the grandchildren who are foolishly allowed within ten feet of her, who have the missfortune of being raised around her. My mother is evil, bitter, hateful, and self-centered woman who loves to make everyone elses lives miserable. A creature, that would probably be a good name for what she is.

Then there would be the child killers, the trash who make innocent children (and even women) into sex slaves, the killers of innocent people just so they can rob them or whatever they need to do to them. There are people who don't exercise goodness in their lives because they've never been shown goodness in their lives. I am so very lucky to have not been one of them. Then again my nature never seemed destined for that kind of attitude anyway.

There are people who are naturally evil. Like my step daughter who is a coniving and self-centered lady, who only uses the innocent children she has for what she can get out of them. She says that when she robs a people, man-woman-child, an elderly person, or a church, ect., its because God put the money there to be had by her. Make no mistake about it there are even worse people than her. She seems to have no consciousness at all. Then there are my sisters who think men were put on earth for them to screw over any way or chance they've got. No! No man hurt them to make them that way! Our mom has always treated our dad like he was a servent, to send off to work and take his money on payday--what he bought home from the bar that is--and then cuss him out like he was someone who came in and tried to hurt her and her children. My dad was the only person ever to show me love my whole childhood, and young adult life. He was my only friend till the day he died in 2005.

Violence is violence, there are even good people who commit violent acts to defend themselves, or to do something they are being threatened for if they don't go through with it. There are people who aren't totally bad who commit violence in their youth but truely are repentant for it later on. Truely evil people never are repentant, or guilty of what they do. They are sorry if they get caught only and then try, maybe-or not, to get people to think they are sorry for what they did.

I don't/never live/d in a protective world where I have the privaledge to no have to deal with life through rose colored glasses. I wish I did but I don't. I have learned to deal with the true fact of life as they truely are for the less than privaledged among us who can't choose the world, or place, where we live.

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When a man sleeps in his bed, his soul leaves him to soar above, each soul according to its own way.......
The Zohar

There has to be a such a thing as evil for it to even be in existence in the world to day.

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When a man sleeps in his bed, his soul leaves him to soar above, each soul according to its own way.......
The Zohar

The truth is to define someone as Evil you would have to know there past and there future - and importantly there thinking

Up until you know that its all a perspective - A best guess based on effect and not cause.


Hitler was seen as Evil by many but as Saviour by many others at the time - maybe even today ?


In my own life the abusers were the abused - learned behaviour


If we just glance away from the effect and ask "why" other answers come - often suprising ones
Revelation shows you our innocence - ALL
Yet we hang onto our Judgments based on what the felsh shows us
Our belief is that we are a body born to die, a victim or victimiser
A story that IS the seperation from God
A story that is our will to believe and invest in
And as such it is so

Did Jesus look upon the Man driving the nails into his body and condemn him or did he forgive ALL?

We are little bodies helpless and here for a brief moment in time

OR

We are the sons of God - Brothers of Jesus the symbol of Gods Son complete



Thats our choice and it is ALL or nothing - That said the choice remains until each of us are tired of our toys

None are left behind