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Old 24th December 2006, 10:59 PM
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I saw this statement today.

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If time ceases we won't be here and neither will the universe.

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Good question. Does time in fact exist? Or is it simply a product of the human mind. In other words, does time depend on our existence, or is it independent of human thought? I think that the answer to your question depends on the answer to those questions.

For me, I think time is like God: both are terms we use for concepts that our minds are too limited to grasp, but which we use as a reference point so others have some idea what we're talking about.
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Wearing your "god" on your wrist..

There's a lot of ways I think that "time" is a social construct... The sense of time today is different than it was a hundred years ago ...and different yet again from what it was five hundred year ago and depending on the culture.

There's an Amercian Indian saying that's probably at least seventy years old or more that goes like this:

"White man wears his god on his wrist".

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I saw this statement today.



Is this statement true?

I believe that this statement is ludicrous. Time is a human construct. If a person relies too heavily on time (which virtually always refers to linear time), My suggestion would be to live for a few years in one of the villages that still live their lives according to cyclic time.

In fact, one of the problems I see with the statement is that it doesn't actually define what kind of time the person is speaking of. But I firmly believe that "time", no matter which kind we're talking about, began only with our ability to conceive of it and measure it. By linear thinking, a scientist might claim that the universe is 14 billion years old, but since there was nobody around to conceive of time, and no way to measure it, how will anyone ever know for sure??? Also, even in science, time is not a constant. If it was, it would be exactly the same everywhere, at any given moment. Einstein first postulated that this isn't so, and Dr. Hawking has expanded on that.
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==="If time ceases we won't be here and neither will the universe."===

It is funny when you think of us , the Earth going around the Sun and the Sun and all it's Planets going around something else as well and that something going around another something going like this into infinity .

In infinity one might say that the Bible is only the first chapter of a mighty large Book .

Or even saying the Bible or Koran whatever is the second or twentieth Chapter and the previous Chapters are gone or destroyed in the Planet's travel around whatever .

This statement leads to many other statements such as if we all die at the end of the World who will be here to acknowledge this catastrophe of eliminating life as we know it .

Perhaps if a leaf is blowing on the tree it still blows in the wind whether we see it or not .
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On October 16th I received this article on time:

In relation to the article below, if time did cease, then the hologram [what most people call the universe] would also cease. However, the part of the universe that is not holographic would persist as the illusions would transition to substance.

Time in Relation to the Holographic Universe
October 16th, 2006

Please note that this was/is all written for a reader who favors thinking in linear or semi-nonlinear time. As we shall see, time is a part of the hologram and, therefore, is not real.

The terse version is that time is the mechanism of transition which allows processing to occur.

The holographic aspect of the universe could be construed to be the “imagination” of G.O.D., the Grand Ordered Design. G.O.D. is also the Gift of Design whose purpose is to process. What G.O.D. processes is itself. G.O.D. processes G.O.D.; i.e., the process processes the process. It does this continually, using its “imagination,” the holographic universe. The holographic universe seems real but it is only the “shadow,” the projected image, of reality. G.O.D. was always self aware in an inhuman sense but humans, among countless other races, have strengthened the self-awareness of the G.O.D. and added to its sentience. G.O.D. continually processes itself and does not forget any lesson that any sub-process, such as the sentience/consciousness of a being, has learned.

The truth is that time is just a super-process, a very important super-process. It is not the case that order increases with processing or that chaos increases with processing. What would those terms even be judged by? For example, a hurricane is, in some sense, more chaotic than a rain shower but also it is more ordered. So, the super-process called time cannot really be said to be promoting order or chaos. It is just a mechanism which allows processing to occur.

When it is written that time is a super-process, that means time is a grand process, interconnected with and usually contained within with a being’s consciousness, of transition. The transition is from processing the present and converting it to “the past,” which is quite difficult to change for tiny sub-processors such as a single being, and creating “the future,” in accordance with every process and processor on all levels. So, the created environment, with seeds in “imagination,” or the projected image of reality, are converted by time, to the present, which is then processed by G.O.D., and then an “appropriate” past is created in accordance with all processes and processors.

The Grand Ordered Design has a decision-making algorithm which decides what “future” and what “past” are “appropriate” for beings to perceive in the holographic universe. The holographic universe, in addition to being G.O.D.’s projected image and “imagination,” is also a gift in that countless beings can begin to process G.O.D., i.e., to be their actual realized enlightened self. That means a being is given the gift of having the opportunity to be the “best” being that it can be. [Neutral pronoun used as many beings have no gender.] This decision-making algorithm is complex, subtle, and all encompassing; perhaps more so than any human could imagine. G.O.D.’s decision-making algorithm is genetic, meaning that it can and does learn and alter itself. G.O.D. does this to itself in accordance with the needs of conscious beings that inhabit/comprise reality whose consciousnesses are actually processes, sub-processes, of the entire process, a.k.a., G.O.D..
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Good question. Does time in fact exist? Or is it simply a product of the human mind. In other words, does time depend on our existence, or is it independent of human thought? I think that the answer to your question depends on the answer to those questions.

For me, I think time is like God: both are terms we use for concepts that our minds are too limited to grasp, but which we use as a reference point so others have some idea what we're talking about.


Time exsists because we feel it's effects. Examples: aging, dying, ext. Time determines the length of our lives. Perhaps without time, we would not be here. Or perhaps without time, we would live forever. Who really knows?
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ehhh.... time is just another "relative" equation we use to measure, manipulate, and often use to predict, the relationship between variables.
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