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Old 12th July 2008, 01:40 PM
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Beautiful Tariki! I was just reading Angel's post on ACIM thread where she ask's Tony for advise.....and here is her (our) answer : )
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In the tradition of zen, and as it has been presented here, i question the meaning of Dr. Suzuki's statement regarding beginner's mind/experts mind....i would ask him who of his fellow students of the same master did he unlearn the most from?
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You have a point there Chippingaway. If peace of mind means to unlearn, (knowledge of this world) is not he that triggers this within us....the true master?
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vivamis....

Durn little smilies are fractiouse today....imagine the bowing one viv, and a chuckle too.
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In the beginner’s mind there are many possibilities, in the expert’s mind there are few. - SUZUKI-ROSHI

Who or what is considered a "beginners mind" and why are there many possibilities? Who or what is considered an "experts mind" and why are there only few possibilities? Wouldn't it seem to be the other way around?
"Scientific imagination is imagination within a straightjacket." (Richard Feynman) 'Nuff said, I'd say.
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I don't understand the meaning of that quote. Are you saying that everything is imagination but science a limited form of it?
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I don't understand the meaning of that quote. Are you saying that everything is imagination but science a limited form of it?
Pretty much, yeah. It's a mistake to think science proceeds along linear lines and careful research. Most big leaps in human understanding are intuitive and not the result of logic extrapolating from what is already known.
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Yes, I agree : )
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You have a point there Chippingaway. If peace of mind means to unlearn, (knowledge of this world) is not he that triggers this within us....the true master?


This is such a lovely point

How about if the truth within us all is "Jesus"


Maybe we all need to think like he did ?

No belief required, more a state of mind ?
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Happiness is a state of mind...to move beyond beliefs, concepts, judgment....thought.... one finds one's true Self.... bliss : )
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