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you have done a very nice job of describing the incident...and i would continue to share till someone along your path can relate and share a story similiar....has that not happend yet...???
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Thank you for sharing your personal experience with us. I do believe that drugs can trigger a mystical experience. Not that I have tried LSD before....but my experiences have been very simular without the usage of drugs. Trigger might not be the right word. I think that drugs can "block" the mind enough for one to go beyond mind. Beyond the mind...is the timeless, spaceless and limitlessness.
From my own experiences: you will find closure.....when you stop seeking closure : )
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May your awareness be perfection Last edited by vivamis123 : 9th August 2008 at 02:48 PM. |
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I personally believe in UFO's. It is possible it was a coincidence that this happened while you were on the LSD. I find it very hard to believe you both were just experiencing the same hallucination. I doubt that very much.
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I'm pretty surprised that I was able to describe it so well because when I tell the story in person I'm nervous, I skip around, and I forget important details. When I was done typing it I couldn't believe how well I did. I didn't leave anything out. The only thing I'm not satisfied with is my description of how the sky looked when it changed to night. It's hard to describe because there isn't much things I can compare it to. I've been thinking about a better way to describe it other than saying it was like the big bang and I think I figured out a better way. Imagine that the Earth is flat and you are the center of the universe. The horizon you see is the actual horizon and it touches the ground. The blue sky, the clouds, and the sun are on a blanket that is like a dome tent over the Earth. If you removed the blanket then you would see the night sky and stars behind it. From my point of view, it was like the blanket was being consumed by the sun that was near the center of the sky. As it is being consumed I can see the horizon sliding up, the day sky getting smaller, and the night sky being revealed without stars under it. The day time sky keeps getting smaller and the night time sky keeps getting bigger. When the event is half way done the sky looks like a dart board. The outer ring is the night sky, the inner ring is the day sky, and the sun is the bulls eye. The inner ring is getting smaller until it is completely consumed by the sun. Before it is completely consumed by the sun the night sky is starless. So, right before it is done consuming the day sky it looks like it is night with the sun as the only star. When it is done consuming the day sky the sun gets smaller and smaller until it completely disappears. When it disappears the stars start to come out. This time it looks like the stars are another blanket coming out from where the sun was. This is the big bang part because it looks like the stars spread out from where the sun was to fill the sky up. When the stars are half way done filling the sky it looks like there is this big circle of stars and a big black starless circle around it. When the star circle touches the horizon the event is over. Now imagine all this happening as quickly as the sound of a sonic boom while a sonic boom is happening and you would have a good idea what it was like. Actually, I heard something very similar recently on Coast to Coast A.M. and that is what reminded me about it. So, I thought this would be an appropriate place to bring it up. His guest was talking about stories like this happening through history. For an example, He talked about how in this town(I think he said in the 1800s) people witnessed people vanishing in this fog on a road and they never returned. He said that animals were scared to go near it. The towns judge even confirmed it and I think this event was recorded in the court's records. Anyway, he was talking about people either vanishing forever, ending up in another place on the Earth, or reappearing in different times. His theory was that since such things have happened all over the Earth that these stories must have some truth to them and that he believes them to be caused by a rip in the space time continuum. He believes them to be worm holes that are either naturally occurring or by intelligent life. The part that made me think that maybe he is talking about what happened to my friend and I is he said that people who had these experiences described a humming noise that occurs before they "teleport". When I heard that I was shocked! It still didn't convince me that it was what happened to me but it did convince me that it could be the answer.
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I kind of understand what you're saying but the drugs don't explain it. If the drugs were a cause then it unlocked a power in one of our minds to cause us to time travel and I highly doubt that. Also, we took a very small dosage. The effects I felt from it were just a little more than the effects of pot. Everything from that night felt like a small dosage of acid except for the event. I have hallucinated from drugs and from my illness and I can tell the difference between a hallucination and reality. A hallucination only feels real when it happens but feels like a dream when it is over but reality always feels real. Well, since you have never done L.S.D. before I think it would be a good idea to never try it. It has a dirty feeling to it that I can't explain and it has a bad effect on emotions. If you took to much you could have a bad trip and/or be lost forever. Most drugs that are manmade are way worse than natural ones. Also, the reason L.S.D. was created in the first place should scare you. The government made it in the MK-ULTRA project to use for mind control. If you ever feel the need to feel "mystical" I recommend shrooms because nothing about it feels synthetic. I'm not trying to encourage you to try it but I rather you do that than L.S.D. It is nicknamed acid for a reason! Please describe your experiences and how did you find closure?
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Some times I think it was aliens and sometimes I don't. I have reasons for both options. Another friend of mine had a mind blowing experience happen to him while on acid. He told me a story about some friends and him tripping at a nearby school parking lot. He said they were all in the car talking and listening to the radio. He said one guy and his girl were doing something sexual in the back seat. They saw this craft fly above the school. The guy in the back was so amazed that he jumped out of the car to look at it with his pants still down. It hovered into a neighborhood by the school. They yelled at the guy and told him to get in the car. They chased it into the neighborhood and it was hovering in someone's backyard. My friend got out of the car to go up to it(he always does stupid things like that) while everyone else was to scared to get out of the car. He got near it and this red beam shot out. It gave him a paralyzing pain that made him fall on the ground and shake like he was being electrocuted. The owner of the house came out to see what was going on. He came out yelling because he thought that kids were vandalizing his house or something. His yelling caused other neighbors to come outside. They all saw the craft. The craft darted away and soon after air force jets went in the direction the craft went. He said the neighbors were outside discussing what to do if we are getting invaded. While they were talking black vans showed up. Soldiers with guns came out of the back and government agents in suits came out the front. The soldiers surrounded the people and the agents told everyone to calm down because everyone was yelling out things like,"Are we being invaded!", "We saw a U.F.O.!", and ,"Is this going on everywhere!" My friend said he felt like he was in War of the Worlds at that point. He said that the agents told them that there was no U.F.O and that there is no invasion. Everyone started yelling because they knew what they saw. The agents told them that they witnessed a secret government project and told them that since it is a matter of national security they can't tell anyone. They said that if they told anyone they would disappear. Everyone got scared when they told them that and even some of the women started crying. The agents took down everyone's information like names and addresses. They told everyone to return to their houses. I was obviously very skeptical about this story. The one thing that makes me think it could be real is that two other people told me the exact same story. The friend who told me this has a theory that aliens choose people on drugs because people won't believe them and they may not be able to believe it themselves. So, this stuff makes me think that maybe it was aliens but some things make me think it wasn't. Like in my case, If aliens took me then I was gone for about nine hours. That doesn't make sense to me because if they have the technology to make me have that experience then they should be advanced enough to do what they have to do quickly and/or without me knowing it. There is something that I think is relevant though. My friend(that disappeared with me) and I have noticed that there is things different about us compared to everyone else. He talks about this calling he has from God. His family has moved a lot and he has attended many churches. He told me that many times preachers have told him that he has a very important calling. He said that sometimes it would be his very first time in a church and ,while a preacher is doing his sermon, he would look at him then walk over to him and announce to the church that he has a calling from God. It's like preachers see something in him. He hasn't just told me this. His family has told me the same thing and there have been times when a preacher has told me. Also, it seems like it is very hard for him to die. He has been in all kinds of accidents and it is almost like he is being protected. Another thing about him is that everyone has this weird respect for him. It is like people recognize him as some kind of authority. I'm not saying that everyone likes him. It's just people treat him like he is untouchable. Even with strangers or enemies. It's hard to explain but it is almost like he is a mobster that people fear to cross the line with. It is an undeserved fear though. There is nothing threatening about his appearance. I have something similar. I have this psychic type thing going on. Sometimes I accurately predict things like my own death(I'll tell that story later). Everything feels familiar to me. It almost feels like I've lived this life before but forgot about it like you do with dreams. I can't control this ability. It feels like it is being controlled from somewhere else and like my life has a plan to it. Also, it sometimes feels like instead of me predicting something I actually cause it. I don't know what is going on but it could be described as a calling from God. I also have things happen that leads me to believe that I'm being protected. I've prevented my own death or have coincidences that occurred that saved me(I'll share one story later). Sometimes it feels like I can wish things away and it happens. Like my fiance ,which I found using these abilities and prevented her death also, I have cured her from a disease that she has had for years that doctors say is incurable simple by wishing it away. I can't share the details of this because she hid this disease and made me promise to tell no one. I wouldn't tell even if she didn't make me promise any ways because it is just way to personal. One time I caused my number one enemy's death also by wishing him away(I may share this story later). It wasn't murder. It was self defense and he was going to kill my fiance in the future. So, I had to. Also I didn't have a choice any ways because I can't control these abilities. All this stuff is hard to explain but I'll try my best later. There are three other things that I think may be relevant. The man with no face, the men with the cameras, and the oracle. The man with no face is this reoccurring vision. This man with no face kicks open my door, shoots me in the stomach, I fall back and hit my head on something, and strangely enough I die from the head injury and not the bullet wound. This guy scares me to death! I believe him to be a stranger because I can't see his face. I can't control my abilities. So, I feel almost defenseless. I'm hoping he is my number one enemy that is already dead. It could be him because I've never seen him, he knows how to pick locks, and he did own a shot gun. I hope it's him but I want to play it safe just incase I'm wrong. The people with the cameras are people who try to take pictures of me when I'm not looking. Once when I got out my front door to go to night school this white car drove by. It's window was cracked open and there was a camera lens sticking out. The camera took my picture, the person pulled in the camera, and then rolled up the window. My mom drove me to school and this car followed us. I reported it to the police that were working as security guards at school. The other time it happened I was in my cousin's car. We stopped at a red light and a car pulls next to us. I look over and I see the same thing happen. I looked at my cousin and said the person in the car next to us just took our picture. He said he saw them roll up the window. It was a black car. I told him to let the car pass. So, I can write down the license plate number. It was U.S. Government plates. The oracle is someone I haven't met yet. This person is someone that knows about mystical psychic type things. They remind me of the oracle from the Matrix or of a witch. I don't know why I'm suppose to meet this person but I hope it is someone that can train me to control these abilities. I think all this strange stuff has something to do with my experience. Everything seems connected somehow. It is like a puzzle I have to solve. I'm starting to ramble and I'm sure this is all boring. So, I'm done for now.
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well once again you have done an awesome job of expressing....and i think one thing you might think about ....you really dont need to solve the puzzle...i think perhaps that is what causes much of the frazzled behavior of most humans......hope your day is awesome...
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You should realize that all such substances are controlled by the powers that be.
The drug wars ruse creates the impression that there are these outlaws who defy the system and manufacture and distribute their booty to society in defiance of the authorities. The reality is much different. Any individual who volunteers to consume such products is volunteering to become part of a large multifaceted experiment, which would explain why you are being observed sporadically. This also is the reason why so many people get paranoid reactions as they ingest substances which boost their powers of awareness and thereby become somewhat aware of the fact that they are the "guinea pig", but they do not suspect that this is the actual situation. Observation can be conducted from a distance so it is virtually impossible for the "victim/subject" to "get the jump" on the observers. The mind control programs which these substances were tested in are still operational and now their technology is far beyond what we consider normal and common. Welcome to the zoo. |
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