Although the question was originally addressed to you, I can't help thinking that everyone may benefit from asking themselves the same question. So on a broader level, yes, it is a question to everyone and not just you.


The latter:

OK, thanks TC.

If most religion is metaphor and myth, how can there be anything negagive about it? From what I have observed any negativity is in how people interpret the myth and metaphor. It seems the problem would be trying to change people's interpretations. We could try to stop myth and metaphor, but I don't think that is going to happen. Can we change how people perceive and interpret and is that the point of your project?

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I was also wondering how it's possible to list all the positives of religion(s) and where we draw the line between religion, spirituality and metaphysics. Can we include Buddhism or A Course in Miracles? One of the biggest advantages of my choosen path is "reducing the number of reincarnations I have to go through to achieve enlightenment." Does that count as an advantage in this project?

At first I thought perhaps we were looking for a way to stop the focus on differences and look at the positives. But now I'm curious if this is just a "kinder, gentler" approach to keeping the conflict going. How do you see it EH?

evangelicalhumanist.
Thank you for those kind words . With all due respect, with what l have been through in all my life you cannot hurt me with your words . I mean that and this is because l have an understanding of hurt and what hurt really is and thanks .
I will be back to continue here asap .

Have a nice Toronto day .


mooomooo.

Most if not all people have a Faith when they believe in God because ofcourse it has to be this way and the truth is there but it is Faith for now as it has to be .

If only one person , like Jesus, came forward today and proved that Jesus could do what the Bible states then the world will have no doubt and will change because the truth holds a Power not known yet today and so and because of amazing unbelievable living concepts and the follow-through of this Power it is kept in the dark to Man so Man does not use this Power .

DELUSION OR NOT ???

lol

Hey , let's play "DELUSION OR NO DELUSION ???"

Poor evangelicalhumanist , never got a "Delusional Dinner' but maybe in time you will get "Roasted ",,, and get your own 'Delusional Dinner' and you can share this dinner with all your new found 'Christian friends' .

Joy oh joy for evangelicalhumanist when he gets his Delusional Dinner and becomes "ONE OF US" ouch , a fate worse than death for evangelicalhumanist but remember ,evangelicalhumanist, you may get a cupcake yet lol and then you evangelicalhumanist can say with "PRIDE" " I got a Delusional Dinner" .

Seriously though , our children are the first to learn of God when they ask "Where did mommy go ? " after she dies in a car accident or whatever way .
And also our children ask " what happens when we die ?"

And we say Heaven or whatever but our children must face this reality as we do when they ask us this .

But in another way to see this is that God is trying to communicate with us and each time a baby is born in the presentation of God the baby is soon to learn of God from us and in that process many of us find God ourselves and the newborn child led us to God ourself through the child's questions and curiosity we ourself find God .

In the other process the child finds nothing but what the child sees and when asked we say " there is no God and what you see is what you get " .

The child will accept this answer just as the child will accept the idea of a monster under the bed but we all know there are no monsters under the bed yet we all [ most]assume there is God .

Lol i will just watch this debate from the sidelines i'm too new yet

For me mooomooo to be an Atheist l would have to erase everything l saw with my own eyes and erase all the truth l know is truth and throw it in the trash can as 100% delusional even though it is 100% true .

So for me to be an Atheist l would have to start over and not have lived what l have lived and from the very beginning of my life l would have to be branded with the assumption that there is no God and then anything in my life which is unknown l would have to label it as " delusion" and seek help and deny what l saw , as a delusion to make all other Atheists happy in my Atheist beliefs.

But l cannot deny mooomooo what mooomooo knows as fact and l am trapped in truth and l see where you are evangelicalhumanist in this truth as l was once and not long ago less of a believer than you evangelicalhumanist and in a way l am an Atheist but the proof of God has been shown to me so instead of being an Atheist l am a delusional being who needs medication for my delusions according to you and all Atheists .

However since l can see me in you and your quest for truth , it is you evangelicalhumanist today who has a "better shot" of finding God than many because you really want to know and your purity of intentions is to accept what you know and to know more you will need a Delusional Dinner , honest as this Delusional Dinner is "seing is believing" .

The dead wife thing was real and l am alone with that even if you believe me that it happened there is so much more it is impossible for you to believe me other than saying ,, "mooomooo you believe it happened" ,,,so since you cannot realise this dead wife thing , just as others cannot , l must assume that the dead wife thing was for me alone and God ofcourse but only for me and it takes strength to allow such a thought to be real as this but it must be this way as l know it happened and not in my mind and so on. .

Anyway l did not ask for all these God things to happen and l continually doubted God as you do evangelicalhumanist and even when my dead wife did that , l still doubted God but when l began to Heal by touch and no -touch etc and they were real and not a delusion , no matter what you evangelicalhumanist feel and with respect , they were real and l still doubted that God was real .

It wasn't till l found that little 9 year old girl that l finally had enough and l faced this so called God because l felt if God was real He sure was cruel and God finally told me WHY WHY WHY to every question l held and l then knew and now as l read you it is as me , and the way l was and how it led me to God just as God is despaerately trying to find you evangelicalhumanist although that is the least of your concerns but l know and it is good for you evangelicalhumanist because soon you may have a nexus with God as l did and even you evangelicalhumanist will have to believe even though you really don't believe you will have to because what you are doing today is leading you to God even though you don't know it yet .

If God comes to you evangelicalhumanist God will know that you are ready and if God has a cup of tea with you lol you , like me , will be forced to accept what you see and all your work till now will show purpose and that purpose is what is leading you to God and since you have covered everthing about the other side or non-believing side , leaves you as a great candidate to see God as it takes something that God is looking for so God can communicate with you and tell you what is really going on here on Earth .

Since you evangelicalhumanist know the enemy , if l may say it that way , l see that you evangelicalhumanist are being readied to see God on Earth and when you do and God tells you the truth you will have an answer to all your concerns and you will realise that all you have learned in your Athesit concepts was so that when you finally get your Delusional Dinner you will have great knowledge of those who did not get a dinner , and you will see what is going on .

You evangelicalhumanist are " WANTED BY GOD" and these are not my words sort of , but straight from God to you now and l know this no matter how this sounds .

So continue what you do and doubt and learn why you doubt as this is the secret for you to know , is to study "you" evangelicalhumanist and all you have said , as the secret of God , if l may say it that way , is in your words evangelicalhumanist whether you get a Delusional Dinner or not .

Ron.

You may not believe that, and I won't wait up by the phone, but yes, I am certainly willing to help any way I can.

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It is possible. The biggest hurdle is getting humans to accept that it is. Our problem is that all our efforts at peace are based on the assumption that peace cannot be easily achieved. This is why we end up walking with crutches instead of walking unaided.